by Giulia Consoni, Giacomo Prosperini, Francesco Sbraga

Walter Mignolo is an Argentine Professor who has brought meaningful contributions to the fields of semiotics, cultural studies, and postcolonial theories. He was born on May, 1st, 1941 in Córdoba, Argentina and had a distinguished career in the academic domain. He obtained a BA in Philosophy from the National University of Córdoba, Argentina, and a Ph.D. from the Ecole des Hautes Etudes, in Paris. Over the years, he has held various academic positions and has been associated with several institutions, such as the Universities of Toulouse, Indiana, Michigan, and Duke University in North Carolina. He is a particularly relevant figure in the non-Western field of International Relations since he attempts to challenge the current Western and Eurocentric paradigms, advocating for a decolonial shift. Indeed, he is known for his works on decolonial theory, which assess the cultural, social, and political implications of colonialism, aiming to deconstruct the Eurocentric perspectives dominating the academic and cultural discourse. The dominance of European perspectives, experiences, and knowledge is a recurring element in Mignolo’s literature. According to him, Eurocentrism, which is the result of European colonial expansion, has significant effects on global power dynamics, economic structures, and socio-cultural hierarchies. Mignolo’s works have been significantly influenced by the Peruvian sociologist Anibal Quijano, specifically in the development of the decolonial theory. Both scholars have contributed to the interpretation of colonialism and imperialism over society, culture, and knowledge production. The concept of the “colonial matrix of power”, for instance, was originally formulated by Quijano and represents an instrumental element in shaping Mignolo’s perspectives. 
Moreover, the core theoretical implications of Mignolo’s claim rely on the definition of Global South and Global Linear Thinking. The "Global South" is not exclusively represented by a geographical positioning, since it also embodies an ideological concept highlighting the economic, political, and epistemic dependency of underdeveloped countries. In fact, this term operates both economically and politically. On the one hand, the Global South lies in a position of economic dependency and resource extraction, supplying the Global North. On the other hand, it represents the emergence of a global political society challenging Western structures. It aims to create a space where an alternative political society, distinct from the traditional Western democratic system, takes shape (Mignolo 2011b).
Furthermore, Mignolo’s decolonial perspective is based on Global Linear Thinking, according to which the history of coloniality is hidden beneath the facade of modernity. This narrative emphasizes the Renaissance of Europe emerging from the "Dark Ages”. The European Renaissance is crucial as it marked the beginning of colonial expansion, characterized not only by physical violence, economic interests, and political and military control but also by the establishment of an intellectual hegemony. Additionally, Global Linear Thinking tends to categorize various groups such as Moors, Jews, Indians, and black slaves or, according to the Catholic perspective, Lutherans and Calvinists in the North, as external and internal "barbarians". This division increasingly laid the notions of superiority over the Global South. Lastly, this way of thinking led to the racial partitioning of the world, reinforcing the distinction between Western and non-Western civilizations and cultures, and establishing hierarchies of power and privilege (Mignolo 2011a).

The Colonial Matrix of Power 
To understand history, Walter Mignolo builds upon the model developed by Aníbal Quijano. The colonial matrix of power refers to a complex system of control and dominance that has been established and perpetuated by colonial forces, particularly from the West, over centuries. It is a framework that covers various interrelated domains and spheres of influence: economy, authority, gender and sexuality, knowledge, and subjectivity. First of all, the historical foundation of the colonial matrix - and hence of Western civilization - lies in theology, which will be replaced by philosophy and secular science. Christian theology initially associated the distinction among Christians, Moors, and Jews with “blood”, a concept later evolving by the eighteenth century into the marker of race/racism, ultimately shifting to skin. Secondly, the economic nature of the matrix resides in the economy of brutal resource extraction from the Global South and accumulation - dynamics that are today are associated to the capitalist economic system. This dimension involves economic structures and practices, set up during colonialism to exploit resources and labor in colonized regions for the benefit of colonial powers. Thirdly, cultural hegemony refers to the imposition of Western cultural norms, languages, and values on colonized societies, leading to the marginalization of indigenous knowledge, languages, and cultural practices. Mignolo clarifies thatre are six vernacular modern imperial European languages (English, French, Spanish, German, Portuguese, and Italian) that are at the roots of the fragmented world disorder and destitute any other form of practices of living and knowing. In this view, colonial powers also constructed subjectivities and identities, imposing hierarchies based on race, gender, and class. This process shapes perceptions of self and others within colonized societies. Finally, epistemic control refers to the dominance of Western knowledge systems and epistemologies, which establishd criteria for what constitutes valid knowledge, often devaluing alternative ways of knowing and understanding the world. Epistemology covers somehow all aspects of the matrix, underscoring the epistemic imposition of the West in all domains and urging epistemic disobedience to challenge the hierarchies of knowledge imposed by colonialism.

The end of the Western control on the Colonial Matrix of Power: a critique to neo-liberalism 
With the fall of the Soviet Union, there has been the presumption that would oreder could have become polycentric. Mignolo (2011a) underlines how the future world is destined to be shaped by the struggles, negotiations, collaborations, and interactions between five different and coexisting trajectories, underlining how none of them will prevail over one another. Their possible co-existence mirrors the abovementioned polycentrism. Alternatives to liberalism’s unequal and unjust structure of power have always existed, but for a long time they have been eclipsed by Western epistemology. These five trajectories are: Rewesternization, Dewesternization, Reorientation of the left, Decoloniality, and, finally, the spiritual option. 
Re-westernization consists in the attempt to re-affirm Western hegemony of knowledge by regaining control on all the components of the colonial matrix of power. This attempt is a response to the erosion of the American leadership (and its legitimacy) and has been enshrined in President Obama’s effort to “rebuild the confidence the world had in the United States”, also through the relaunch of the so-called “American knowledge of development”. 
Dewesternization develops as a critique to the West and neo-liberalism, seeking to confront and challenge Western hegemony. It calls for a re-evaluation of an alternative knowledge system that does not proceed from the liberalist structures of power and subsequent processes of racialization. Henceforth, it does not stand in antagonism with Re-westernization yet but criticizes Eurocentric systems of knowledge and their universalistic assumptions. The expression “reorientation of the left'' denotes the attempt of the leftist groups to reorganize – after the fall of the Soviet Union – at a global level. By undertaking different directions and, therefore, constituting different sub-trajectories, it can be noticed how differently from African countries (that can boast to have “non-contaminated” local histories), South American’s leftist parties or governments, whose indigenous populations were influenced by European colonizers, are re-orienting towards re-westernization or de-westernization. 
Whereas the abovementioned trajectories professed a radical detachment from liberal capitalism, responsible for economic exploitation and inequalities, decoloniality undertakes such a move of delinking from and subverting the the colonial matrix of power, and for this reason it can only be pursued by the civil society and therefore in the public sphere.

In his work on Zapatistas’ theoretical revolutions, Mignolo opens his analysis with the statement of a young girl in the Chiapas market: “los zapatistas nos devolvieron la dignidad” (Mignolo 2002). This dignity was mainly stolen by the “coloniality of power”: a hierarchical structure that classified people according to race and origin. 
One of the main points in this analysis is the role of the “double translator” (Mignolo 2002). Subcomandante Marcos (spokesman and one of the main figures of the Zapatistas movement) became in fact, on one hand, the translator of the discourses of the indigenous/Amerindians to Mexico and the rest of the world, and on the other hand, the translator of the ideals of Marxism to the indigenous/Amerindian communities. 

Marcos realized that converting Amerindians to Marxism would simply be a repetition of what happened in the 16th century when missionaries converted people to Christianity. Instead of embracing and adopting an “other-directed” ideology, he recognized the importance of understanding and integrating Amerindian perspectives and knowledge without trying to replace them. Marcosa believed in the possibility of merging Marxist and Amerindian worldviews (“cosmologies”), at the condition that indigenous movements would have been considered not as weak actors waiting for a savior, but rather, as bearing strong traditions and experience of struggle. The double translation, in the context of the Zapatistas' theoretical revolution, refers to a process of understanding and overcoming cultural differences between various perspectives and contexts. 
Another tenet of Mignolo’s analysis lies in the critique of the Western concept of the “abstract universal” (Mignolo 2002). In that respect Mignolo underlines how terms that for the Western world are considered universal values, can actually be interpreted differently according to the diversity of experiences and backgrounds - as in the case of “democracy” that in the Zapatista thought may include a subversive element in which the political leadership must emerge from the grassroots and obey the will of the people. Proceeding from this critique, Mignolo proposes “diversality” as an alternative to “universality”. 

Giacomo: “In undertaking our project, we have dealt with your work The Darker Side of Western Modernity, in which the term “Global South” seems to be used as an alternative expression to refer to countries generally associated with the Third World. What we have thought is that nowadays it can be difficult to talk about the Global South in relation to the old conception of the Third World, since it could potentially represent an independent element from what you call the re-westernization of knowledge. For example, we have thought about the evolution of BRICS countries, such as the emergence of South Africa or Brazil. For this reason, our first question revolves around this issue: what is your position about the re-emergence of developing countries in recent times?” 
Giulia: “Coming back to the discourse of the trajectories, could you briefly recap the four main sub-trajectories of the “re-orientation toward the left”, focusing in particular on South America’s “turn to the left” and the conditions in Bolivia, Venezuela and Ecuador?”. 
Francesco: “In the current society, is there a major acknowledgement of a non-western culture? Could you provide an example of an indigenous revolution in Latin America that can be associated with the Zapatista one in recent years? 
Francesco: “Could you explain the position of China, in particular the role of the indigenous community in the society?” 
Links to the Interview: 
The first question and its answer
The second question and answer
The third question and answer
The fourth question and answer
 

Mignolo W. (2002) The Zapatistas’s Theoretical Revolution: Its Historical, Ethical, and Political Consequences. Review (Fernand Braudel Center) 25(3): 245-275. 
Mignolo W. (2011a) The darker side of western modernity: global futures, decolonial options. Duke University Press. 
Mignolo W. (2011b) The Global South and World Dis/Order. Journal of Anthropological Research 67(2): 165-188. 
Mignolo W. and Walsh Catherine (2018) On Decoloniality: Concepts, Analytics, Praxis. Duke University Press. 
Wesites:  
https://criticallegalthinking.com/2012/05/02/delinking-decoloniality-dewesternization-i nterview-with-walter-mignolo-part-ii/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJkZ4gjge6s